Correspondence between Edward Smith-Stanley, Earl of Derby, and David William Mitchell regarding a list of desirables from the sale catalogue of the aviary and menageries at Knowsley Hall
Letters from Edward Smith Stanley regarding matters concerning the government, problems of the Zoological Society of London, supply and exchange of animals, discussion of descriptions and well-being of animals and the hatching of eggs
A list and two letters from Edward Smith Stanley to Edward Ogilby
Knowsley
June 29 1844
To B.H. Hodgson
Bengal Civil Service
Longport
Canterbury
[?] Hotel
Vere Street
Oxford Street
London
Sir
I have this morning [?] with yours of the 23rd Inst. and beg to return my best acknowledgements for your kind assistance not on this account alone but on many others previous as I have been fully informed by [Wm. J. Smith?] of the ready aid you have always afforded in enabling him to carry out my wishes of obtaining the various interesting productions of the Hemmaleh Countries, altho' I regret to think in how many instances your kind exertions in my favour have been frustrated by the conjoint efforts of the changed climate and the length of the voyage which has been particularly distressing in the case of the Pheasants of which I fear I must say that the only individual which ahs survived the transit and still does in a very fair specimen of the male [Thos. lineates of Latham/Khatam?] which however we cannot induce to cross with the Hens of any other kind. I earnestly hope that those announced in tour present letter may prove more successful by [?] Smith's advice. I am about to send out in the next Month a person from hence to aid William L. on the spot in the care of the young animals and to take charge of them on their transit to this country partly by the overland and partly by the sea voyage. This person is my principal superintendent here and he will take an assistant or two with him to promote this division of the forces on the return. If you sh[oul]d happen to see Mr. Ogilby or Drs. [Royle] or Falconer, they can tell you the whole of the Plan and [?] [?] remaining in London. When he goes up, I shall return to give him a letter of introduction to you in order that he may profit by any hints you may be disposed to afford him. Should you be aware by what ship the animals your letter has announced to me will be conveyed you will much oblige me by this intelligence, that I may put in train the requisite enquiries after them
I remain Sir
Your very much obliged
Derby
Knowsley
Jan[uar]y 14 1845
Sir
I know not how far I can put forward any right to intrude upon your attention still more to ask any favour of you but your well known attention and zeal in the adornment of all that may any way [tend?] to the furtherance of Natural History and in particular Zoology has been too conspicuous not to draw upon you the wishes if not hopes of others to obtain your aid and [?]. I have just learnt from my friend Mr. J.E. Gray that you are about to return to Nepal. I hope for an extended period and I am bold enough also to return to solicit your aid in the plans I have for some [few?] years of late been sedulously attempting but with hitherto but indifferentness to put in execution of bringing over to this country some of the interesting and [?] living [productions?] of those mountain [?] you are I believe aware of this fact both from the circumstances of your [late assistant?] [Lieut Smith?] having been a main support[er[ of my views and thro' D. McClelland and who by the way I learn from Mr Gray had stated himself to your to be an agent for me at Calcutt[a] and in that character obtained from you for me certain specimens which you have intended to bring in your own care to England which you suspect were never embarked at all, certainly they have never reached me, any of them. But you w[oul]d much oblige me by the statement of when this occured and what was the time of year. It is certainly perfectly true that tho' I could never have I could never have ventured to have so designated him, Mr. McC has been kind enough to act as an Agent for me on more than one occasion and especially in re[cent] things sent down from Catmandoo by Lt. Smith and shipping such as survived the [wight?] of Calcutta from that port to England. But I am sorry to learn that my first Mainstay in this business is now broken as I am told that Lt. S. has been ordered from Nepal to join his R[e]g[i]m[ent]. I have lately obtained also the assistance of Mr [Vansittart?] and I hope Major Jenkins at Assam to which I flatter myself I may add the aid of Mr. McClelland and Blyth at Calcutta together with a nephew of my own Mr Edw. [Champays?] who is now employed as Auditor of Military Accounts and is resident near the last placed. My new plan is that these gentleman sh[ould?] give me their kind [?] in collating Zoological Specimens in Life and transmit them to the care of any other [?] named who will take charge of them until a sufficient stock is collected for transfer to this country and give me notice of that occurence when I will take care that a person shall arrive at Calcutta on my part to receive the Collection into his charge and to return with them or the most delicate of them by the Overland Route, thus avoiding the risk which I have found as I [?] of twice crossing the Equator [?] the cold for a hot climate. Should you approve of this project which has obtained the sanction of Drs. Falconer and Forbes as well as their scientific friends, may I hope that you will allow me to consider you among the List of my other encouragers and supporters, and [?] will afford me the important advantage of your personal knowledge and influence among those Hills. I have omitted to mention that I have been advised to apply, which I have done, to the present Governor General for the encouragement of this [?] sanction and the permission that the stock when collected together may be received into the Government [?] at Barrackpore which I am informed [?] is Sir Henry's purpose to raise again from the [depression?] into which it was cast by L Ellenboro' and I have been [?] to expect that my request will be granted. I am well aware that you have already been kind enough on different occasions to favour me with your aid thro' the [medium] of Lt. Smith by making over to him for me several of the [?] among the Hill Pheasants, but unfortunately they have never reached me alive except in one instance a Male of the Phes. Lineatus which has resided with us here most admirably but will cross with a female I will put to him. The course of the [?] of those things when sent I attribute to the [?] period at which they were despatched to Calcutta and thence to England some little time since I was flattered with some hope of a visit from you to inspect the Collection here but that seems now to have faded entirely. I had the pleasure of a few days since a similar visit from Dr. Falconer and if you meet with him while in London, I have hopes that he will speak rather encouragingly of my attempts to introduce foreign Animals and Birds into this country Among them I have the pleasure of seeing a very fine specimen of the [Elaphoides?] as I believe it to be but unfortunately tho' in perfect health [?] arrived [?] [blind?] and has continued so ever since I fear [incorrectly?]. It annoys me [?] as I have never [?] to procure another specimen, and I have no doubt we sh[oul]d have established the Breed here. And now, having sufficiently trespassed on your indulgence I will sincerely repeat my apologies for the intrusion and [?] myself with [much regards?]
Sir your obedient and obliged [?] Serv.
Derby
Lord Derby to B.H. Hodgson
Answered July 26th 1839
Dear Sir
By one of the recent arrivals from the Cape I learn that my friends there have been kind enough among other things to send over for me what they call a large Male Water Buffalo by this I imagine they mean what I know by the name of the Bos Caffer and that is an animal that I fear is of too violent and savage a nature for me to receive him here but it is undoubtedly an animal of great rarity having I believe never before made its appearance in England (if in Europe) before above. If in that character, or any other the Council wd. consider him an acquisition to their Collection in the Park. I shall be very glad if they will do me the Honour to receive him. It will be still almost as gratifying to me as having him here at Knowsley without the continual dread I shd. be under of accidental injuries happening were he to come down hither when I have nothing like the appliances and means of Security than wd. be [?] with you. He is at present in your neighbourhood being under Mr [Garnett's?] care to whom I have also written by this Post authorising the transfer of the Beast to any one who may apply for it under authority of the Society. I have also had some intimation of a very [savage?] Black Tiger and of a very [tame?] Royal Bengal [?] being coming to me. I know not how or from whom but as another of them are in my [?] I shall beg to offer their [refusal?] to the Council if they would honour me with by their acceptance. I only heard of them casually from my Son who said someone had told him they had seen them I think at the Cape and understood they were for me. It is thus a very blind offer I am making but I thought it best to be sure of the Council's inclination against their [?] as, if declined I should [?] them to be immediately disposed of. I have also been lucky enough to enlist [Gen. J/T Anna?] in my service for [Mexican Roosters?] in return for English. I think this may be a promising speculation for me I hope you find matters [?] satisfactorily. For [?] of as I refer to Fuller to whom I also write today
Yrs very truly
Derby
To Wm. Ogilby Esq
Knowsley
Aug 8th 1847
Dear Sir
I am glad to learn by your Note of yesterday's [recd?] that the Council have agreed to your proposal of rather Warwick's and shall be very glad to receive a copy of the agreement when finally drawn up. I ought though to have replied to your Note on this matter by the last Post as you have put to me a material question, but to own the truth, I am still rather puzzled how to reply as I own I do not exactly understand what it is that Warwick wishes me to bind myself to as far as I do understand it tho' I cannot wonder at his desire to [?] himself as far as possible, it seems to me requiring me too be bound to purchase particular animals without knowing any thing as to their condition, quality or sex for it might occur that he might succeed in bringing only one sex where I desire a Pair, or that the sex may be exactly that not desired, nothing do I at this moment recollect which are the [sorts?] he alludes to. I fear therefore that without farther explanation I can hardly bind myself to that for supposing anything to happen in the interim to me, nor by [?] a claim on my successor to [make?] him buy something he might not be at all desirous of. I have again to thank you for your communication to-day of Mr ['Serright's] letter and I will lose no time in forwarding to you a Note to Messrs Drummond for the sum you mention as the amount of freight and for Mellish and his Live Stock to whom I believe Thompson will perhaps send some advices. He I find has left at The Gardens the Birds he carried up for the [?] Show, and perhaps if not inconvenient to the Socy. it might be as well to take this opportunity of coming hither by Mellish. I take this opportunity of mentioning that it is probable I may shortly have occasion to make some drafts from my animals here among others of the Hog and Barbary Deer and [?]. Would the Socy wish for any of these and what? As I should of course wish to give them a preference when I can in these matters I am glad you have heard of the [Snooks?] I had some conversations with [B. Bornon?] about them when here as he opined the emperor had not forgotten his promise. I find from Sir Robert that he has agreed to take 2 Pair of Bustards of Richter which I am glad of
Yours very truly
Derby
I fear I shall not be able to succeed with Tyler about the Impeyan Pheasants as he says he has already refused 100 for them. I wonder who has offered that sum, as I pay [?] [?] [?] not I suppose you are aware that there is a pair of Cyrus Cranes lately imported but the owner says he might be tempted by 150!! Guineas tho' he too has refused 100 It is too much - for me at least